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NeoNotes - The New Deal and the free market

I've news for you.

There was no need for the New Deal.

All evidence shows that the New Deal prolonged what should have been a short term correction. Not to mention that government actions created the crash to begin with. Things like manipulating the price of gold, restricting the amount of currency, and messing with import/export taxes.



No, it didn't.

The unemployment rate stayed roughly the same for years. Capital dried up. Businesses failed. Farmers came darn close to revolting, the ones who were able to keep their farms anyway.

By most measures, the economy was either worse or the same in 1938 that it was in 1931. Look at the previous depressions and recessions and see how long they lasted.

And don't forget, a major part of this was because government restricted the flow of currency before the bank runs.

The economy can't be controlled and it can't be managed. Each person makes a hundred economic decisions each and every day, most without realizing what they are doing. Do they use a pen or a pencil? Handkerchief or tissue paper? Pack your lunch or grab something downtown? Multiply that by 300 million, that is the self-regulating system that government thinks it can control. There are just too many variables and conditionals, it would take lifetimes to measure.

Fortunately, we don't have to. Humanity is a colony organism. We built these interconnecting, self-repairing, self-regulating systems that require very little from us.

Price when it relies on the free market is the most intricate continually updating feedback mechanism ever created by man. The thing that messes it up is when we change the feedback. Introduce sin taxes, that changes the feedback. Introduce tax abatement, that changes the feedback. Subsidize corn and sugar, it changes the feedback. The price of a thing or service reflects millions of data points that the individual doesn't know about but still provides information about the world.



The unemployment rate stayed in double digits, and in April 1939 one in five still couldn't find work.

And that brings us to the bit that even Keynes could never bring himself to admit: the private sector is the source of wealth and employment. Keynes believed that it was massive government spending that could bring back a depressed economy. He failed to allow that government doesn't create wealth, it can only divert wealth.

Which leads to an inescapable conclusion. Government relief decreases the flow of capital and increases unemployment. It may look good, it may pay for a meal today, but all it really does is shift the costs elsewhere and delay recovery.

There's also the bit that if government takes money to give to others, that's theft. There's a classic essay called “Not Yours to Give” by James J. Bethune that talks about that. It's also about Davy Crockett.

Even WWII after factoring out the costs in human lives didn't end the Depression. It hiked the national debt from $49 billion in 1941 to just under $260 billion in 1945. Real recovery didn't come until after the war. FDR's death prevented his Second Bill of Rights, neither Congress nor the American people were willing to let Truman revive the New Deal after the war.

I was only talking about taxes in terms of how they affect prices. Accurate prices are the main feedback in the free market. Well, that and reputation. Which is a completely new subject, even as it ties into parity.

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NeoNotes - The screws

"…yet that ominous backdrop of a changing world that is inexorably shifting to the right…"

The traditional right wing and left wing definitions really don't work all that well. But the Nazi party considered themselves left wing, and they were left wing by the standards of the time. A better distinction is if someone supports the state over the individual. Unfortunately many don't recognize that a state that supports them today can turn against them in a second. Sort of like happened recently.

Trump deserves criticism, there's no doubt about that. But it's impossible to understand why Trump won without considering the actions of Obama over the previous eight years. It was backlash. You may not believe me, but look at all the Congressional seats, the state legislative seats, and the governorships the Democrats lost in the last eight years.

Heinlein said that a government supported artist is an incompetent whore and he wasn't far wrong. I don't want politicos and technocrats deciding what is art and what is not. Neither should you.

The muses live in the artist and the art, they are reflected in the eyes and ears of the audience. I don't want a government rating on how artistic something is, I want to feel it touch my spirit.

There are ways to deal with Christian attacks. Point out that any faith system that needs government force to back it up tells just how weak someone's faith really is. Work from there,

There's also our secret weapon. The U.S. Constitution mentions the Christian god exactly once, in the date. Unlike every other government document in Western civilization at the time, the Constitution does not beseech the Divine or claim that government power derives from the authority of the Divine. It set up the United States as a plural society and we have remained that way ever since. Despite repeated efforts by certain evangelicals.

Don't look to government to solve your problems or protect you from your fears. That's always going to depend on getting the right people elected, and who has time to make everything in life political? Even if you could pull it off. Look to your neighbors and friends, the people of good character who are the real power in our country.



I'm not reducing it to one dimension. I'm pointing out that the left and particularly the Democrats are not the saints they claim to be. There were at least just as many who felt attacked by Obama as feel attacked now by Trump. There are differences in how each handles it though.

Oh, and going by the cash spent, the Democrats outspent the Republicans for the Presidency this last time around.

What people forget is that when the Nazis came to power they were the new kids promising deep changes to solve social problems. And that is precisely what they delivered. That is about as left wing as it gets.

I've said it elsewhere and I will say it here again. The problem is government. The more you let government into your life, the bigger a victim you set yourself up to be.

Which, as I keep pointing out, is exactly what happened. Obama and the Democrats expanded government in every way that they could, and now Democrats and progressives are all surprised when government can be used against them just as easily.



One of the things that Obama set out to do was prevent "right wing" money from being spent at all. That's why the IRS didn't recognize conservative groups for tax exempt status.

I'm not right wing. One thing libertarians soon learn is that both the so-called right wing and the so-called left wing both want massive expansion of government, just for different reasons.

This is the bone of contention between us. You are convinced that with the correct people doing the correct things, a bigger government is a Good Thing™. I think that if you make a government bigger today, it's sure to be used against you tomorrow.

Just as happened in 2008. Just as happened in 2016.

Your problem is that you think government power is being misused. I'm telling you that government power is misuse.

ETA: I cited all the losses that the Democrats had over the last the last eight years. Ask yourself why the money was spent the way it was over four separate election cycles. Do you honestly think it was all Republican spite money? Why do the Democrats get to spend money and the Republicans don't?

I still think there should be a None of the Above.



According to internal IRS documents, conservative and tea parity groups were targeted. These documents were published (among other places) in Stassel's excellent The Intimidation Game. The story about the Judicial Watch FOI lawsuit and all the IRS crashed hard drives is particularly interesting. Some of it was even reported in the press at the time, although with a very patronizing tone.

The comment about spite money avoids the issue. Here, I'll emphasize to make it easier. Why should the Democrats get to spend money while the Republicans shouldn't?

I'm not a Social Darwinist either, I rejected that philosophy when I was still in junior high school.

Here's the thing. In the first few paragraphs of this article that we're commenting on, fear of government in the wrong hands is obviously the central issue. In all your comments on this site about the power of government, you've always supported government in the correct hands even as you say it's hard to find and elect honorable people to serve. You're arguing over who gets to drive the getaway car.

I can talk about the proper places of the muses and defending against Christian attacks for a year and a day. All you're focusing on is who gets to call the shots and why. You are willing to surrender power over your life to some politico who looks good and says the right things on cue. Why? Does it make your life better? Does it give you the secret food additive so when you pass gas it smells sweet?

Or does it give you power over others?



Check closer. It wasn't just Wisconsin.

Neither the IRS or the DOJ is supposed to delay FOI requests, especially not for years at a time. That's beyond the means of most organizations and individuals to follow up. It's also a direct violation of the law.



That's the point. It was never exclusively left. Or right either.

My irritation at progressives since the election is that all the blame has been put on Trump for what he might do while excusing everything wrong that has been done by Democrats.

I really, really don't like defending Trump. But overlooking the "sins of the past" while attacking Republicans for everything wrong with the world won't get Trump out of office any faster. If anything, it will dilute effective criticism because people will just start tuning out all criticism of Trump. People will tire of complaints that never panned out and will just stop listening.



That's the shell game that you've been conditioned to accept.

It's always the other party's fault. And you can fix it if you just get enough of the right people elected at the right time to do the right thing. And if you can't do that, it's because the other party is oppressing you. It's their sneaky tactics and blatant manipulations that are driving out goodness and democracy.

The solution to government problems is always…More Government! Of the correct kind, of course. Our government, not their government. And since the other guys are sneaky, we have to be sneaky to protect our legacy and the truly good things that government can do, if just given a chance. Or ten. Just in case government doesn't get it right the first few times.

Do you see how that works? Do you see how the problems never get solved, just made worse?

Don't you see how much of your freedom this costs? Don't you see how you end up bowing at the altar of Government Doing the Right Thing?

How much freedom will you be allowed tomorrow?



Not a nerve. It's just annoying when modern liberals excuse behavior in "their own" that they would not stand for if it were done against them. Which reflects the same point I've been making since Trump was sworn in. It's also the same point that almost every American progressive refuses to accept. They don't object to government power, they just object to government power used against them or the things they believe in. You'd be perfectly willing to apply the screws if the situation were reversed. Almost nobody bothers to ask if the screws should exist in the first place.

The label of social Darwinist is inaccurate because the philosophy itself is deeply flawed. If you had bothered to ask or even to check, I'd tell you that I'm the guy who said that humanity is a colony organism. I'll let you work through some of the implications.

If the Obama administration conspired to keep conservative and tea party groups from getting tax exempt status and the Obama DOJ investigated those same groups, then something is a little screwy. Especially when no one was taking a close look at the Clintons. Odd how the Clinton Foundation has folded up shop. It's almost as if it had no purpose other than to get HRC elected. In violation of I don't know how many laws.



Humans have been taking care of each other for a very very long time. How many old stories have gods wondering the Earth disguised looking for hospitality and charity? Our society is built on the idea of honor and fair play. Parity is a keystone. The Christians called it the Golden Rule, but it existed in dozens of successful cultures. It may be the most important idea of Western civilization and the best thing that sets us apart.

Look closer at the Clinton Foundation. Their donors are down, they hid the third quarter 2016 drop until after the election, they've been releasing staff, and their operations have scaled way back.



The thing is, we're getting better. Americans especially. We're practically hardwired to help. Show us something that we can do something about and we will do it. Not because we're obligated to, not because of some government edict, but because we genuinely want to. Child fallen in a well? We're there, not only with (mostly unofficial) rescuers but with people feeding the family and the rescuers. New Orleans flooded? We're there with fan boats carrying supplies and the most efficient trucking network on the planet bringing in more. Notably the fan boats got turned away because they weren't "official." You should watch for that, it's a repeating pattern.

The Clintons have been doing shady and not quite shady enough things since Bill was governor of Arkansas. The press doesn't call them on it. Case in point, before the election HRC and her staffers met with Russian officials more than Trump and his staffers. There was also a questionable uranium deal while HRC was Secretary of State (and while the CF was receiving scads of funds from Russian sources), but who is counting, right? And this is the problem. Prominent Democrats get a pass while every Republican action, legal or not, gets made into the scandal of the week. I'm not excusing Republicans for their screw-ups. I just want Democrats held to the same standards.

ETA: It's early and my caffeine hasn't quite hit yet. I forgot to mention in the first part that America is the biggest source of private charity in history by a few orders of magnitude.

And now if you'll excuse me I think I will go wake my companion. There's time for a little fun before the sun rises.



You misunderstand.

Unrestrained government is the "unvarnished evil." The Constitution was designed for limited government.

There are very few areas that the free market actually sucks, and most of those are caused by (wait for it) government mandates and restrictions.

The free market is built on two very simple principles. The first is the voluntary exchange of goods and services between consenting adults. The second is hardly ever acknowledged but just as important. Someone will see something and think "I can do better than that!" Most will fail, some spectacularly. But the ones who succeed change everything. There's no way to tell who will succeed in the free market now or in the next decade. It can't be controlled or predicted. Nor should it be.

Choice and the free market make the most effective advancements in human history. Good law protects free choice and the free market while insuring responsibility.

Even here, our choices make it possible. We choose not to be part of the prevalent monotheisms. We choose to look at the Divine and the World in ways not accepted by most of our fellow citizens. That choice and accepting responsibility for that choice shape who we are and how we touch the other lives on this planet.

It's not about the mechanisms of government. It's about how much we keep it restrained. Transparency is useless without limiting government because politicos won't limit themselves.

There is an old proverb, fire and water are good servants but evil masters. Some say that Washington said government is like fire, a troublesome servant but a bad master. He probably didn't say it, but the idea is sound.

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NeoNotes - Which god?

I will give you the same argument that led me to question the "faith of my fathers" and started my own search.

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NeoNotes - Make Your Choice

Are people better if they are more free or more controlled?

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NeoNotes - Free markets mean liberty

With government interference, one side exploits the others.

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NeoNotes - Pardon…

It would not honor my faith, and it dishonors the Divine as I perceive it. It would require me to break oaths & promises that are at least as important to me as yours are to you.

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NeoNotes - Harder and harder

Which means under the 10th Amendment, Obamacare is illegal.

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NeoNotes - Liberty should be the goal

We need solutions that don't exile people politically.

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NeoNotes - Off Limits

Behind locked doors and privacy fences, I am "free to do what I want." But is that freedom?

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NeoNotes - American Christmas

Christians are nicer people when they aren't the only game in town

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An obvious solution

Plant more trees.

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When I thought Trump might win

By the end of September I was seriously impressed.

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NeoNotes - Government doesn't compete

“There's no incentive to make it better”

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NeoNotes - Laci Green

“The stuff on sex is pretty good, the stuff on relationships is so-so, and the SJW stuff is just destructive.”

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NeoNotes - Analysis

The last couple of days I've been analyzing both parties and their leadership.

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Unholy alliance

Her politics don't allow for dissent.

That tells me more than I need to know.

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NeoNotes - People. Are. Pissed. Off.

People had their trust stolen and now they are almost ready to smash.

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NeoNotes - Shame game

I played this game many times until I tired of it

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NeoNotes - Sexuality & society

I suspect that sexual orientation is not as hard wired as some believe, but that is still individual choice.

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NeoNotes - College & university

Once upon a time, going to college or a university was about learning new ideas AND working out for yourself what ideas were practical and which ideas you could use to make your life better in society.

Real revolutions are rare and don't usually work.

Real change comes because someone worked out a better way and didn't have to force everyone else to accept it.

Thus endeth the sermon.

I need some biscuits and honey.

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NeoNotes - Drug War

Most of the problems caused by illegal drugs come from the drugs being illegal in the first place.

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2016 Election

I don't like either candidate. I don't trust either candidate. And I definitely don't trust the two major parties.

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NeoNotes - Control

I believe in people and not government.

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NeoNotes - Homosexuality wasn't illegal

Despite your personal beliefs, homosexuality is not the issue.

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NeoNotes - The real "for their own good"

I don't believe the answer is in who gets to call the shots.

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Kafkatrap

I was adding commentary to some of my lexicon entries

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NeoNotes - Emotional connections

Sex without the emotional connection is masturbation

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NeoNotes - Vice

Vice laws tell people that we don't think they can be adults

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NeoNotes - Competition and progress

Competition keeps us honest. Progress never comes from satisfaction.

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NeoNotes - Reciprocity

We can build a moral system based on the Ethic of Reciprocity

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Environmentalism loses it's wind

The climate change movement is destroying the environmental movement

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NeoNotes - Earth Day

Originally published at Technopagan Yearnings

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NeoNotes - Undermine your own

At the end of the day, we don't have anything but our faith

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NeoNotes - Religion becoming the law of the land

Not likely

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NeoNotes - Political committment

I make it a rule to doubt the political commitment of anyone more than three years younger than the voting age.
     — NeoWayland
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NeoNotes - Politics is never about reform

Politics is about control

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NeoNotes - Political fringe and crazy ideas

The political fringe and their crazy, insane ideas

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NeoNotes - Immigration

That alone isn't enough

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NeoNotes - Smear

Why should they feel shame?

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NeoNotes - Taking over the world

The only point in taking over the world is to make sure people make their own choices

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NeoNotes - About the guilt

Not all feminists & not all lesbians

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NeoNotes - On Liberty

the ORIGINAL NeoNotes™

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New quotes - updated

Some of the comments I make on other boards are worth saving

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NeoNotes - Divine intervention

Am I attacking Christianity?

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NeoNotes - Ordinary

Even their day to day actions produce wonders

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NeoNotes - American Legacy

We are a nation of individuals, of individual liberty and responsibilities, of individual choice and individual passion. We're the first nation like that in recorded history, it is our legacy.

Our faiths, like Christianity, are a part of that.

Please think about this. You may believe that your God makes the sun rise, but your faith doesn't control my actions. Likewise, my faith doesn't control you.

We have to find common ground outside religion. Otherwise it's a matter of whose religion is "in charge," and that way will destroy liberty.

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NeoNotes - On Progress

Progress never comes from satisfaction.

And I am not talking about progressives.

We adapt, we change, we rise to meet the challenges. Life is a journey, not a destination.

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NeoNotes - Not the pagan community

I'm not speaking for the pagan community. Much of the justification for "establishing" a Greater Pagan Community® is so that certain individuals can get the adoration and deference they believe they deserve.

I believe in ecology but I'm against environmentalism.

I believe individual freedom and personal responsibility works ever so much better than collectivism.

I think that what Christians call the Golden Rule is one of the most important roots of civilization. But I prefer another version, "Be excellent to each other. And party on, dudes!"

Now is that enough of a test, or do I have to give the Super Secret Handshake™ too?

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NeoNotes - On Rape Culture

I'm not familiar with the work, but we've seen these discussions far too often. Take the allegation that the United States is a "rape culture." Or the notion that anyone who says "all lives matter" instead of "black lives matter" is a racist.

In this specific case, look at the mindsets involved. One wants validation and their demands enshrined in law and regulation. The other wants a better world for them and theirs. Yet both are treated as if the RadFem ideology is dominant.

There are women who consider themselves feminists that think wife and mother is a valid choice and don't want anything to do with the RadFems. But these are not the ladies doing it for attention. They won't be published. They won't be picketing. They won't be giving soundbites for the news or YouTube. That's not how they believe lasting change happens.

Words matter. Actions matter more. Intentions don't.

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NeoNotes - On Christian theocracy

>Anytime someone starts talking about a Christian theocracy, I ask "Which one?"

Besides the obvious differences between Catholics and Protestants, there are differences between the sects. There's no way a Baptist is going to take religious marching orders from a Mormon. The Methodists won't accept directions from the Christian Scientists.

This predates the country. Back in the colonial days, no one wanted a church in one colony dictating religious practices in another. This is partially why there was no national church defined in the Constitution and why the only mention of any god in that document was the date.

The best way to make sure that you're allowed to practice your religion in peace is to make sure EVERYONE has that same right.

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NeoNotes - Sex Speculation

There I admit we get into some speculation. We can't isolate the culture from the genetics. Not to mention that Really Big Assumption that you are either straight OR gay forever and ever, amen.

We can't say how much a person's sexual orientation depends on their conditioning, religious beliefs, cultural standards, rebellion, stress, pain, or pleasure. These factors can't be eliminated.

Basically all we have to work with is observations and we don't know how much is because of the biology and how much is because of the mind. That means in turn that any discussion of sex is going to bog down really quickly in ideas that can't be quantified.

Thank the gods the same can't be said for the act!

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NeoNotes - Trends

Perhaps we could just say stuff happens and individuals need to be held responsible.

The trends argument is the same justification that the RadFems use against males in general. You can pick and choose bad examples and ignore the good examples. That way, you never need to talk about individuals, it's about trends and statistics and who is the greater "danger to the community."

Why is it better when conservatives use that justification against whatever Label X is this week?

Until and unless you can show that all of Label X engages in Action Y AND no one who is Not Label X engages in Action Y, the argument falls down. Which means maybe, just maybe we should look at something other than the label.

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NeoNotes - Dangerous beast

Perhaps the biggest difference between libertarians and conservatives/progressives is that conservatives and progressives view government as a Way To Get Things Done.

Libertarians see government as an extremely dangerous beast that if kept at all, must be severely hobbled and and three-quarters starved.

For the safety of the community.

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NeoNotes - No real difference

Actually there is very little difference between the "leaders" of either party. They don't object to stuff being done, they object to the other "guy" doing it and getting the credit.

The problem isn't the Republicans or Democrats, it is the state. It's going to continue until enough people realize that the self-appointed elites control the candidate selection and mostly control the agenda.

If you're supporting increased taxes to get money or benefits, you're supporting theft plain and simple. Politicos will spend all the money they can grab and then some. It won't be on the things you think you "deserve."

Then there is the numbers game.

The "rich" don't make enough money. Even if you seized every dollar the "rich" made, it wouldn't pay for everything. You have to go deep into the "middle class," well beyond the upper, beyond the middle, and well into the lower "middle class." And it's still not enough.

That brings us to the biggest second order function in a "progressive society." If people can't keep what they earn, why should they work harder to earn more?

Finally, (and this is the Really Important Bit™). Government is not your friend.

The purpose of government is not to help "the poor, the weak, and the minority."

It is to perpetuate and expand power at the point of a gun.

It won't help to get the "right people" elected, because they won't stay elected.

Instead, power backed by force will stay with unelected technocrats who are convinced that they know what is "for your own good" no matter what you say and do.

As long as I am making a
morning rant, I might as well use it twice.

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Tain't Mine

This is from an email exchange I had recently.

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Let them be forgotten

Let them be remembered as cowards who only dared attack unarmed victims.

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I'm not the smartest guy in the room

Since I just spent forty-five minutes writing it as a post, you’re damn right I’m going to put it here.

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NeoNotes - Impress Me

You want to impress me, come up with something more than "the Bible told me so.” Don't make threats about judgement and eternal flame. Don't tell me about the changes it's made in your life. Don’t tell me how it’s “saved you.” Don’t tell me how you have the hotline to the “Almighty." 

And don’t tell me “it’s God’s judgement” when you’re the one spouting the words.

Tell me about the changes your faith makes in the world around you. Tell me what you do that makes the world better than when you got here.  Tell me how your faith manifests through you. 

Tell me about how you pass it on.

If that "Living Word" exists, it has to be in the hearts and souls of those people who have really embraced it. It's not in a dusty book. The verses don't matter except to show you the way. Tell me what lives behind those printed words. Tell me how you turned your sacrifice into a blessing.

Tell me about love. Tell me about the love you showed today.

Your actions show that. 

Your next choice starts now.

from the private journal of NeoWayland

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NeoNotes - Tyranny of the absolute

If the choice is between the absolute on the left side or the absolute on the right, I am going to pick freedom despite both.

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NeoNotes - Answers & Questions

I’ve long since concluded that no one has all the answers or even most of the questions.

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